Who’s Gonna Murder the Family Next?

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Who’s Gonna Murder the Family Next?

 

(Randi James) http://www.randijames.com/2009/04/whos-gonna-murder-family.html

I’d say that the following article is overall decent, but I’d like to point out a few things. My commentary is in blue.
(emphasis mine)

Experts eye murder-suicide perpetrators’ traits
BY CAROL POLSKY | carol.polsky@newsday.com

Vengeful ex-employees, abusive husbands or boyfriends angry over a separation, financially strapped and overwhelmed providers, depressed fathers, psychotic mothers: When do they cross a line, as only a very few do, and kill their families and themselves?
I want you to notice the adjectives describing fathers, and the adjective describing mothers. I’ll wait while you re-read it…Matter of fact. I want you to comment on the article so I can see if you picked up on it.
Police in Baltimore County say the deaths of a Garden City family, discovered in a hotel room Monday, were a case of murder-suicide. But they have not released details about who they believe was the killer.
They release the details about everything else. What’s the problem? I have noticed a trend in the past 7 days of NOT reporting the killer in the original news articles.

Psychologists, sociologists and criminologists can only provide general descriptions of personality traits that often emerge in cases of what is called familicide or family annihilation.
Understand that: General. These professionals cannot predict anything. They do what you and I can do, look at and gather information. You know who else can provide "general descriptions of personality traits"? Astrologists.
The Washington, D.C.- based Violence Policy Center reports that in cases of murder-suicide, 95 percent are committed by men.
Read: Not Too Responsible Fatherhood: Blaming, Shaming, and Gaming
Louis Schlesinger, forensic psychology professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City, said there were two different types of familicidal offenders.
Remember that this is not fact, but perhaps a damn good explanation. (Read Marcella’s Stop It Before It Starts: Part 1 Domestic Violence)

One takes a proprietorial view of his wife, gets angry, and attacks her and everyone around her. The second type is "the despondent male," who feels he must kill his family and himself to spare them the humiliation or pain of what life will bring, Schlesinger said.
I want to know, are psychologists making these assessments after the women and children are already dead? Because it would help to know if a man had this view long before the murders. I think a good time would be…during family court. But you see the problem is, the men actually PASS the psych exams, and the women do not. (Read Custody Evaluations on RightsforMothers)
Why? Because psych tests, like many other things, are written with a certain group in mind, therefore automatically biased against anyone who isn’t in the "in" group. Understand it akin to standardized testing and IQ testing on people of color.
"It’s not rational, it’s not reasonable," he said. "If he tries to kill himself and survives, he views the [slain] family with sympathy. . . . He feels tremendous regret."

What does he regret though? Killing? Failing? Or the repercussions? There is a big fucking difference.

Some experts say they foresee an increase in such cases in financially stressful times, although studies show suicides generally decrease in such circumstances.
So, when people are stressed out, they are more prone to take out other people? And when they are not financially strapped, they mostly just kill themselves? Hmmm.
But Jack Levin, a sociologist and criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston, said there is almost always a "catastrophic loss that precedes a family annihilation."
Triggers can be a loss of a job, money, a relationship or a loved one. Often, he said, there is a feeling of isolation.

If these murderous men feel isolated, is the solution to reward them with access to their former spouses and children? To keep the marriage together? So, let me get this: Marriage initiatives and shared parenting presumptions were created to benefit men? (To keep them from "suiciding" as they would say in Australia) Oh, yeah, duh!!

"Most family annihilators, and typically it’s the husband and father, have been frustrated and depressed over a long period of time," he said. "But they, unlike other depressed individuals, blame everybody else for their miseries.”
Dingdingding, key words in red. But I’m not understanding. I thought depressed persons blamed themselves. Period. So how can family annihilators/murderous husbands and fathers be depressed and yet they are blaming everyone else? Wouldn’t that NOT fit into the depression category? Maybe more like psychopaths or something else?

From: Australian Family australianfamilymovement@yahoo.com.au
To: fathers4equality@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 December, 2008 6:16:28 PM
Subject: [fathers4equality] Bruce Pardo, hero

Here’s a toast to Bruce Pardo. He was a man.
Many will speak badly of him.
A few will say that he was a victim.
All will say that it was an unfortunate situation.
But he was obviously a man who would not submit to injustice.
His actions bespeak a man who thought about his actions, who had things well planned including a "plan B" which eventuated with his suicide.
Bruce Pardo, you were a Man.
I salute you and raise my glass at your courage and honesty.
Hail, your Spirit, Bruce. May it energize others in your situation.
Goodbye, brother.

Again, why aren’t psychologists catching these things BEFORE the murders?
Or, he said, in cases when the man may be described as a dedicated husband and devoted father, the motive may be "a perverted sense of altruism that they’d be better off dead than live in this miserable existence."
Well, he should have asked them first, like in the case of the Amador family in Miami. One of the slain daughters had told a friend that her father had been sexually abusing her for years. When Mr. Amador murdered the family, the community talked about what a great man he was. So, are we saying that Mr. Amador thought his family would be better off dead? Because it seemed that they would have been better off withouthim.
In general, he said, most familicides are suicidal rampages, "but first the killer will take care of his loved ones."
If they are going to go on these rampages, they should reverse that order. Things would proceed much more smoothly.
If the person is religious, "He may feel he can reunite with loved ones in the hereafter, or wants to spare his loved ones the humiliation of his suicide."
Right. Maybe he should have asked God first.
4 dead in Fla. family slaying; teen son escapes

Divorce filing and arrest come before Dade City couple’s murder-suicide

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on 5/04/2009

Labels: fathers murdering children, Florida, husband murders wife, murder-suicide, news, psychological testing, Veronica Scott, violent crime, Wendy Bellar

1 advocates for peace:

DenomShi May 4, 2009 5:07:00 PM

You have done a wonderful job with breaking out this article and all of your comments are spot on!
I can only hope that others will read this and actually begin to SEE what is going on right before our very eyes.
Thank you for this!

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I am an oak “The Oak Tree”

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“The Oak Tree”

 

A mighty wind blew night and day.

It stole the oak tree’s leaves away,

Then snapped it’s boughs

and pulled it’s bark

until the oak was tired and stark.

 

But still the oak tree held its ground

while other trees fell all around….

The weary wind gave up and spoke,

“How can you still be standing, Oak?”

The oak tree said, “I know that you

can break each branch of mine in two,

carry each leaf away,

shake my limbs, and make me sway.

But I have roots stretched in the earth,

growing stronger since my birth.

You’ll never touch them, for you see,

they are the deepest part of me.

Until today, I wasn’t sure

of just how much I could endure.

But now I’ve found, with thanks to you,

“I am stronger than

…I ever knew”

 

 

 

Do not go where the path may lead, go where there is no path....and leave a trail...[emerson]

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Batterers, Misogynists, Parental Alienation, (Perps Aligning) Courts Profits, Oppression, Research, Facts and Time Lines

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Batterers, Misogynists, Parental Alienation, (Perps Aligning) Courts Profits, Oppression, Research, Facts and Time Lines

 

From the BADASS’s: Bloggers Against Deprivation, Alienation Syndromes, & junk Science

Issues, per authors

• 000_Bancroft critiques Johnston 1998-Critical Analysis of Janet Johnston’s Typology of Batterers. Why you should care? AFCC (see site) are being trained by such types of understatements of these issues. Bancroft ran one of first batterer’s treatment programs for men, hands-on knowled 0
• 000_Custody Switch Sample Case read after “Bait & Switch.” Classic case. Protective Mom jailed (for protecting, or trying to). 0
• 000__Custody Bait ‘n Switch 101 Explore this Calif. site! (plus NAFCJ.net) to the process — Why aren’t laws enforced? How can this be? ($$$ explained) 0
• 1972-2009 Are Women Still Mad? (Phyllis C.) 1972ff (intelligent dialogues from Phyllis Chesler) 0
• 1993-NAFCJ researching wider “web” (Liz R. asks Why)There’s a method to the madness of this system, and who’s funding what and why. 0
• 2000 –HSLDA morphs to Patrick Henry College (Article) Where HSLDA meets Patrick Henry College, meets Washington DC (as recounted by a nonbeliever). Location, Location Location. 0
• 2005- Calif NOW asks Congress to investigate Fathers Rights Funding Fatherhood programs operate on the false premise that there is a “crisis in fatherlessness,” which is 0
• 2006 – State of American Manhood One of the more relevant pieces around, I blog on this June 2, 2009. Courtesy “postsecondary.org and postsecondaryopportunity.blogspot.com — pls visit! 0
• 2009 – David Blankenhorn writes Obama Father-to-Father, “More than half of all U.S. children today are likely to spend at least a significant portion of their childhoods living apart from their fathers. For African American children, tragically, that figure is at least 80 percent.” 0
• Evangelical Christianity’s Catch-22 on Violence The practice of hiding, ignoring, and even perpetuating the emotional and physical abuse of women is … rampant within evangelical Christian fellowships and as slow as our legal systems have been in dealing with violence against women by their husbands, 0
• JusticeWomen on-Govt/Corporate takeoversOver the last 15 years, the U.S. violence against women movement has become increasingly embedded in the very institutions we most need to change. The feminist rape and domestic violence centers of yesterday have become morphed into the quasi governmental 0
• Kids in Distress in AustraliaWell written discussion, many links. Parallels US situation…”In 1975 the no fault divorce rules came into force. This meant that the normal tests of morality and behavior such as drug addiction, infidelity, gambling, and violence were irrelevant to a d 0
• Richard Gardner says (er, said…) From StopFamilyViolence. Pro-PAS = Pro THIS. FYI, “Stop Family Violence does not agree with the views espoused by Gardner – we find them disgusting, offensive, and most importantly, they are not correct. Gardner’s views are based in his own perverse t 0

Links on Blogroll

• 000_Bancroft critiques Johnston 1998-Critical Analysis of Janet Johnston’s Typology of Batterers. Why you should care? AFCC (see site) are being trained by such types of understatements of these issues. Bancroft ran one of first batterer’s treatment programs for men, hands-on knowled 0
• 000_Custody Switch Sample Case read after “Bait & Switch.” Classic case. Protective Mom jailed (for protecting, or trying to). 0
• 000_Track Thy Govt (great tools) Open Source (not a govt site), great tracking tools & widgets. Pay attention !! 0
• 000__Custody Bait ‘n Switch 101 Explore this Calif. site! (plus NAFCJ.net) to the process — Why aren’t laws enforced? How can this be? ($$$ explained) 0
• 000__Know thy People (pipl link).. A handy site — check out your Experts, Associations, Publications. 0
• 18 categories of reporting Lost in Lima Ohio Who IS this blogger (found 4/22/09)? With 18 categories, and no apparent favoritism, intelligent commentary, and THINKING, its blogs like this (and Chesler, and others) that make me wonder how much, really, am I contributing here? See esp. the heading, “ 0
• 1963 — AFCC — just a little L.A. organization..(Meyer E. & Stanley C.) Tipping the Scales of Justice: AFCC members are: Judges~Lawyers~Mediators~Custody~Evaluators~Psychologists~Researchers~Academics~Parenting Coordinators (HUH??)~Social Workers~Court Administrators~Court Commissioners~ Counselors~Financial Planners. 0
• 1972-2009 Are Women Still Mad? (Phyllis C.) 1972ff (intelligent dialogues from Phyllis Chesler) 0
• 1980ff- Family Law Certification ACFLS was formed in 1980 following certification of the first group of Family Law Specialists. Next to nothing need be known about domestic violence, and child abuse is simply not mentioned in requirements. Interesting, that… 0
• 1981 CPR started (Jessica P., Nancy T., Jane V. plus 3 more)“The Center for Policy Research (CPR) is a private, nonprofit research agency founded in 1981 to work with public and private sector service providers to plan, develop, and test projects that improve the effectiveness & efficiency of human service age 0
• 1984-2005ff "Policy Studies", see "Center for Policy Research." SOME group has to DO what a policy studies group determines must be done. It helps to have staff in common to catch those govt contracts….1984-2005 and still growing, PSI is the executive arm?? of studies produced by CPR for the government. A must-explore site… For example: 0
• 1984-2008 Denver-based PSI, executive arm of CPR-born studies? In 1991, PSI was the first company in the country to operate an outsourced full-service child support office through a contract in Tennessee’s 10th Judicial District. We now run 16 such programs across the country, including the nation’s largest outso 0
• 1985 ACEstudy- Why we need to talk about this…(Robt & Vincent already did…)Childhood sexual abuse relating to adult obesity? ? Kaiser & CDC collaborate to study 0
• 1992 NOMAS-Oh! Brother (Geov P.) … acknowledges anti-feminist backlash…A turning point came at the 5th M&M conference in Los Angeles in 1980, when what had been an explicitly feminist political agenda was challenged by men’s rights presenters wanting to hold a workshop outlining 0
• 1993-Don & Wade get an idea. They have connections..A white house advisor and a child psychologist and “other prominent thinkers” conclude that “Widespread fatherlessness is the most socially consequential problem of our time,” and a multi-million dollar, federally-funded initiative is born…and still pro 0
• 1993-NAFCJ researching wider “web” (Liz R. asks Why)There’s a method to the madness of this system, and who’s funding what and why. 0
• 1993-What’s Fair after abuse? asks Jack Jack Straton: “So you are going to take away a father’s rights?” -”By and large, courts in this country have declared wife-beating to be unrelated to a man’s relationship with his child..” 0
• 1994 – Violence Against Women Act, still here.. National Advisory Committee members share their thoughts, ideas, and expertise by submitting recommendations on a variety of priority issues as the federal govt. develops its policies to address the crimes of domestic violence, sexual assault, dating viol 0
• 1995 "The End of Manhood" (rvw by Harvard Educ Publ Group) A Book for Men of Conscience by John Stoltenberg: This book therefore rejects the widespread notion that “manhood” can be somehow revised and redeemed — the contemporary project variously described as “reconstructing,” “reinventing,” “remythologizing,” 0
• 1995-Bill Clinton likes Don & Wade’s ideas White House Memorandum on Fatherhood primes the federal pump 0
• 2000 –HSLDA morphs to Patrick Henry College (Article) Where HSLDA meets Patrick Henry College, meets Washington DC (as recounted by a nonbeliever). Location, Location Location. 0
• 2002 DC Sniper, Family Court Corruption, Federal Fatherhood Fraud, Devoted Dad? Nothing new since then“For three weeks in October, the “Beltway Sniper” terrorized the Metropolitan Washington, DC area. Ten people were shot to death and three seriously wounded while they were doing routine activities like shopping, mowing grass, pumping gas, or going to sch 0
• 2002, MINCAVA, The Troubling Admission of Supervised Visitation Records in Custody Proceedings (pdf)For years, judges have asked parties litigating custody cases to find “neutral third parties,” generally a family member or close friend, to supervise visitation. … (for WHY they’ve been asking, see my post of 05-26-09: Federal Funding mandating increa 0
• 2003ff Why, maybe, people are fat, drunk, smoke, depressed, maybe… At what age did YOU become sexually active? A Kaiser / CDC study asked over 17,000 adults this and other questions. 0
• 2005 Calif Judge pleads guilty to porn California Superior Court Judge Nailed for Kiddie Porn (character of this site is not the point here)… 0
• 2005- Calif NOW asks Congress to investigate Fathers Rights Funding Fatherhood programs operate on the false premise that there is a “crisis in fatherlessness,” which is 0
• 2006 – State of American Manhood One of the more relevant pieces around, I blog on this June 2, 2009. Courtesy “postsecondary.org and postsecondaryopportunity.blogspot.com — pls visit! 0
• 2007ff-”God, Man, Then … Wait, How Does That Go?” (Curtis C./JMMS) “Journal of Men, Masculinities and Spirituality (JMMS) is an online, scholarly, peer-reviewed, interdisciplinary journal.” I will be checking this out. They discuss rhetoric vs practice and how people negotiate gender identities in these places. 0
• 2008 NOMAS opts for NY’s approach “Batterer programs, created in the mid 70’s, were originally designed to “treat” offenders. Today, most programs across the country continue to be entrenched in a treatment-based perspective, despite overwhelming empirical evidence that effective treatmen 0
• 2009 – David Blankenhorn writes Obama Father-to-Father, “More than half of all U.S. children today are likely to spend at least a significant portion of their childhoods living apart from their fathers. For African American children, tragically, that figure is at least 80 percent.” 0
• 2010 White House OMB — Proposed DHHS budget This is an overview, but you can navigate easily to the site and look around. Blogger is not happy. 0
• Anonymums – Australian but not exclusively national.Several links. Take some time here. 0
• Another Outspoken MomFurther and ongoing coverage of fundamental issues // news commentary 0
• Evangelical Christianity’s Catch-22 on Violence The practice of hiding, ignoring, and even perpetuating the emotional and physical abuse of women is … rampant within evangelical Christian fellowships and as slow as our legal systems have been in dealing with violence against women by their husbands, 0
• Richard Gardner says (er, said…) From StopFamilyViolence. Pro-PAS = Pro THIS. FYI, “Stop Family Violence does not agree with the views espoused by Gardner – we find them disgusting, offensive, and most importantly, they are not correct. Gardner’s views are based in his own perverse t 0
• StopFamilyViolence-Org (chart: Family Law v DV priorities) This chart is very helpful in understanding why Family Law does not deal well with Domestic Violence (or Child Abuse). The priorities are different. PLS NOTE: on “Related Blogs/URLs” my link to this organization is a misdirect. Having trouble correcti 0
• WordPress.com 0
• WordPress.org 0

Ltrs to/from US Presidents ~ Federal Agencies

• 000__Know thy Presidents’ Rhetoric An amazing search tool: “The American Presidency Project” he American Presidency Project is the only online resource that has consolidated, coded, and organized into a single searchable database: 0
• 1993-Don & Wade get an idea. They have connections..A white house advisor and a child psychologist and “other prominent thinkers” conclude that “Widespread fatherlessness is the most socially consequential problem of our time,” and a multi-million dollar, federally-funded initiative is born…and still pro 0
• 1993-NAFCJ researching wider “web” (Liz R. asks Why)There’s a method to the madness of this system, and who’s funding what and why. 0
• 1995-Bill Clinton likes Don & Wade’s ideas White House Memorandum on Fatherhood primes the federal pump 0
• 2005- Calif NOW asks Congress to investigate Fathers Rights Funding Fatherhood programs operate on the false premise that there is a “crisis in fatherlessness,” which is 0
• 2009 – David Blankenhorn writes Obama Father-to-Father, “More than half of all U.S. children today are likely to spend at least a significant portion of their childhoods living apart from their fathers. For African American children, tragically, that figure is at least 80 percent.” 0
• Handy Dandy Govt Dox siteCourtesy a university library, of course 0
• Law/Legal Research sites, Courtesy Patrick Henry CollegeDon’t forget to view “Bible College That Leads to the White House” @ http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0421-09.htm 0

Organizations

• 000__Know WHAT thy Govt is Funding: HHS a.k.a. “Do you know where your children ~~ scratch that ~~ $$548 BILLION ~~went?” And why, and whose ideas these were. Mindboggling $$, not to mention concepts. Get to know this site! 0
• 1963 — AFCC — just a little L.A. organization..(Meyer E. & Stanley C.) Tipping the Scales of Justice: AFCC members are: Judges~Lawyers~Mediators~Custody~Evaluators~Psychologists~Researchers~Academics~Parenting Coordinators (HUH??)~Social Workers~Court Administrators~Court Commissioners~ Counselors~Financial Planners. 0
• 1980ff- Family Law Certification ACFLS was formed in 1980 following certification of the first group of Family Law Specialists. Next to nothing need be known about domestic violence, and child abuse is simply not mentioned in requirements. Interesting, that… 0
• 1981 CPR started (Jessica P., Nancy T., Jane V. plus 3 more)“The Center for Policy Research (CPR) is a private, nonprofit research agency founded in 1981 to work with public and private sector service providers to plan, develop, and test projects that improve the effectiveness & efficiency of human service age 0
• 1984-2008 Denver-based PSI, executive arm of CPR-born studies? In 1991, PSI was the first company in the country to operate an outsourced full-service child support office through a contract in Tennessee’s 10th Judicial District. We now run 16 such programs across the country, including the nation’s largest outso 0
• 1993-NAFCJ researching wider “web” (Liz R. asks Why)There’s a method to the madness of this system, and who’s funding what and why. 0
• 2000 –HSLDA morphs to Patrick Henry College (Article) Where HSLDA meets Patrick Henry College, meets Washington DC (as recounted by a nonbeliever). Location, Location Location. 0
• 2005- Calif NOW asks Congress to investigate Fathers Rights Funding Fatherhood programs operate on the false premise that there is a “crisis in fatherlessness,” which is 0
• 2009 – David Blankenhorn writes Obama Father-to-Father, “More than half of all U.S. children today are likely to spend at least a significant portion of their childhoods living apart from their fathers. For African American children, tragically, that figure is at least 80 percent.” 0
• Evangelical Christianity’s Catch-22 on Violence The practice of hiding, ignoring, and even perpetuating the emotional and physical abuse of women is … rampant within evangelical Christian fellowships and as slow as our legal systems have been in dealing with violence against women by their husbands, 0
• Law/Legal Research sites, Courtesy Patrick Henry CollegeDon’t forget to view “Bible College That Leads to the White House” @ http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0421-09.htm 0
• More Acroynms: HHS in re OWH (Office of Women’s Health) Directions Collaborations The Office on Women’s Health (OWH) was established in 1991 within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Its Vision is to ensure that “All Women and Girls are Healthier and Have a Better Sense of Well Being.” Its mission is to “provide leadersh 0
• Richard Gardner says (er, said…) From StopFamilyViolence. Pro-PAS = Pro THIS. FYI, “Stop Family Violence does not agree with the views espoused by Gardner – we find them disgusting, offensive, and most importantly, they are not correct. Gardner’s views are based in his own perverse t 0

Overviews

• $$ USA spending 2000-2009, by Federal Agency Before you click, GUESS: Which are the top 3 spenders? 0
• 000_Track Thy Govt (great tools) Open Source (not a govt site), great tracking tools & widgets. Pay attention !! 0
• 000__Custody Bait ‘n Switch 101 Explore this Calif. site! (plus NAFCJ.net) to the process — Why aren’t laws enforced? How can this be? ($$$ explained) 0
• 000__Know WHAT thy Govt is Funding: HHS a.k.a. “Do you know where your children ~~ scratch that ~~ $$548 BILLION ~~went?” And why, and whose ideas these were. Mindboggling $$, not to mention concepts. Get to know this site! 0
• 18 categories of reporting Lost in Lima Ohio Who IS this blogger (found 4/22/09)? With 18 categories, and no apparent favoritism, intelligent commentary, and THINKING, its blogs like this (and Chesler, and others) that make me wonder how much, really, am I contributing here? See esp. the heading, “ 0
• 1972-2009 Are Women Still Mad? (Phyllis C.) 1972ff (intelligent dialogues from Phyllis Chesler) 0
• 1984-2008 Denver-based PSI, executive arm of CPR-born studies? In 1991, PSI was the first company in the country to operate an outsourced full-service child support office through a contract in Tennessee’s 10th Judicial District. We now run 16 such programs across the country, including the nation’s largest outso 0
• 1993-NAFCJ researching wider “web” (Liz R. asks Why)There’s a method to the madness of this system, and who’s funding what and why. 0
• 2002 DC Sniper, Family Court Corruption, Federal Fatherhood Fraud, Devoted Dad? Nothing new since then“For three weeks in October, the “Beltway Sniper” terrorized the Metropolitan Washington, DC area. Ten people were shot to death and three seriously wounded while they were doing routine activities like shopping, mowing grass, pumping gas, or going to sch 0
• 2010 White House OMB — Proposed DHHS budget This is an overview, but you can navigate easily to the site and look around. Blogger is not happy. 0
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Who’s Gonna Murder the Family Next?

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Who’s Gonna Murder the Family Next?

 

(Randi James) http://www.randijames.com/2009/04/whos-gonna-murder-family.html

I’d say that the following article is overall decent, but I’d like to point out a few things. My commentary is in blue.
(emphasis mine)

Experts eye murder-suicide perpetrators’ traits
BY CAROL POLSKY | carol.polsky@newsday.com

Vengeful ex-employees, abusive husbands or boyfriends angry over a separation, financially strapped and overwhelmed providers, depressed fathers, psychotic mothers: When do they cross a line, as only a very few do, and kill their families and themselves?
I want you to notice the adjectives describing fathers, and the adjective describing mothers. I’ll wait while you re-read it…Matter of fact. I want you to comment on the article so I can see if you picked up on it.
Police in Baltimore County say the deaths of a Garden City family, discovered in a hotel room Monday, were a case of murder-suicide. But they have not released details about who they believe was the killer.
They release the details about everything else. What’s the problem? I have noticed a trend in the past 7 days of NOT reporting the killer in the original news articles.

Psychologists, sociologists and criminologists can only provide general descriptions of personality traits that often emerge in cases of what is called familicide or family annihilation.
Understand that: General. These professionals cannot predict anything. They do what you and I can do, look at and gather information. You know who else can provide "general descriptions of personality traits"? Astrologists.
The Washington, D.C.- based Violence Policy Center reports that in cases of murder-suicide, 95 percent are committed by men.
Read: Not Too Responsible Fatherhood: Blaming, Shaming, and Gaming
Louis Schlesinger, forensic psychology professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City, said there were two different types of familicidal offenders.
Remember that this is not fact, but perhaps a damn good explanation. (Read Marcella’s Stop It Before It Starts: Part 1 Domestic Violence)

One takes a proprietorial view of his wife, gets angry, and attacks her and everyone around her. The second type is "the despondent male," who feels he must kill his family and himself to spare them the humiliation or pain of what life will bring, Schlesinger said.
I want to know, are psychologists making these assessments after the women and children are already dead? Because it would help to know if a man had this view long before the murders. I think a good time would be…during family court. But you see the problem is, the men actually PASS the psych exams, and the women do not. (Read Custody Evaluations on RightsforMothers)
Why? Because psych tests, like many other things, are written with a certain group in mind, therefore automatically biased against anyone who isn’t in the "in" group. Understand it akin to standardized testing and IQ testing on people of color.
"It’s not rational, it’s not reasonable," he said. "If he tries to kill himself and survives, he views the [slain] family with sympathy. . . . He feels tremendous regret."

What does he regret though? Killing? Failing? Or the repercussions? There is a big fucking difference.

Some experts say they foresee an increase in such cases in financially stressful times, although studies show suicides generally decrease in such circumstances.
So, when people are stressed out, they are more prone to take out other people? And when they are not financially strapped, they mostly just kill themselves? Hmmm.
But Jack Levin, a sociologist and criminologist at Northeastern University in Boston, said there is almost always a "catastrophic loss that precedes a family annihilation."
Triggers can be a loss of a job, money, a relationship or a loved one. Often, he said, there is a feeling of isolation.

If these murderous men feel isolated, is the solution to reward them with access to their former spouses and children? To keep the marriage together? So, let me get this: Marriage initiatives and shared parenting presumptions were created to benefit men? (To keep them from "suiciding" as they would say in Australia) Oh, yeah, duh!!

"Most family annihilators, and typically it’s the husband and father, have been frustrated and depressed over a long period of time," he said. "But they, unlike other depressed individuals, blame everybody else for their miseries.”
Dingdingding, key words in red. But I’m not understanding. I thought depressed persons blamed themselves. Period. So how can family annihilators/murderous husbands and fathers be depressed and yet they are blaming everyone else? Wouldn’t that NOT fit into the depression category? Maybe more like psychopaths or something else?

From: Australian Family australianfamilymovement@yahoo.com.au
To: fathers4equality@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 27 December, 2008 6:16:28 PM
Subject: [fathers4equality] Bruce Pardo, hero

Here’s a toast to Bruce Pardo. He was a man.
Many will speak badly of him.
A few will say that he was a victim.
All will say that it was an unfortunate situation.
But he was obviously a man who would not submit to injustice.
His actions bespeak a man who thought about his actions, who had things well planned including a "plan B" which eventuated with his suicide.
Bruce Pardo, you were a Man.
I salute you and raise my glass at your courage and honesty.
Hail, your Spirit, Bruce. May it energize others in your situation.
Goodbye, brother.

Again, why aren’t psychologists catching these things BEFORE the murders?
Or, he said, in cases when the man may be described as a dedicated husband and devoted father, the motive may be "a perverted sense of altruism that they’d be better off dead than live in this miserable existence."
Well, he should have asked them first, like in the case of the Amador family in Miami. One of the slain daughters had told a friend that her father had been sexually abusing her for years. When Mr. Amador murdered the family, the community talked about what a great man he was. So, are we saying that Mr. Amador thought his family would be better off dead? Because it seemed that they would have been better off withouthim.
In general, he said, most familicides are suicidal rampages, "but first the killer will take care of his loved ones."
If they are going to go on these rampages, they should reverse that order. Things would proceed much more smoothly.
If the person is religious, "He may feel he can reunite with loved ones in the hereafter, or wants to spare his loved ones the humiliation of his suicide."
Right. Maybe he should have asked God first.
4 dead in Fla. family slaying; teen son escapes

Divorce filing and arrest come before Dade City couple’s murder-suicide

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on 5/04/2009

Labels: fathers murdering children, Florida, husband murders wife, murder-suicide, news, psychological testing, Veronica Scott, violent crime, Wendy Bellar

1 advocates for peace:

DenomShi May 4, 2009 5:07:00 PM

You have done a wonderful job with breaking out this article and all of your comments are spot on!
I can only hope that others will read this and actually begin to SEE what is going on right before our very eyes.
Thank you for this!

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